Imagery: the formation of mental images, figures, or likenesses of things, or of such images collectively: the dim imagery of a dream.
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Tuesday, August 24, 2010
Question of the Week (9/24/10)
Describe the character and motivation of Antigone, Ismene, Creon, and Haemon. How are their characters revealed? What is disclosed through their interactions and confrontations (Antigone vs. Ismene, Antigone vs. Creon, Creon vs. Haemon)? What are the major patterns of imagery in this play and how are they connected with Antigone and Creon?
Imagery: the formation of mental images, figures, or likenesses of things, or of such images collectively: the dim imagery of a dream.
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Imagery: the formation of mental images, figures, or likenesses of things, or of such images collectively: the dim imagery of a dream.
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I think that in this play, all the characters seem to live in the moment, and don't really care what happens in the future. They all seem to think you can always go out and change something, but its not always true . For instance, I think that Creon thought that he could make up with his son in time, and that their argument would simply be a speed bump on the road. However, you never know how other people will take things and Haemon took it as more than a minor issue. I think that Ismene demonstrated a similar thought process to Creon, when she refused to go with her sister. In addition, all of the chapters seem to focus on an arguement between two characters, one of whom is doing what is right for their country and one who is doing what is right for their family, which provokes a sort of loyalty imagery for me, just loyalty to another cause.
ReplyDeleteI believe that each character has something different that motivates them. Right at the beginning of the play you could tell that family motivates her. When she heard about the disrespect Polyneices received she was fired up and wanted to give him what he deserves. She didn't care about the consequences; she just wanted to do what she believed was right.
ReplyDeleteI think that Creon is motivated when people don't obey and do what he doesn't like. For example, when he found out that someone buried Polyneices he filled with fury. He wanted that person as soon as possible and he wanted them dead. He also showed this motivation when Haemon came to talk to him about Antigone. When Haemon said that people believe that Antigone should not be killed Creon became enraged that someone would go against his beliefs.
Ismene I believe is motivated by family as well as Antigone, but it takes more major things to motivate her. When she found out her brother was disrespected she wasn't motivated and thought it was a bad idea to bury him. However, when Antigone was about to be killed she became motivated and stood up for her family saying that she disrespected her family and she deserved to die.
I believe that Haemon is motivated by people he cares about. He cares about Antigone and stood up for her when she was about to be killed. When Antigone died he killed himself because she meant so much to him.
In Creon's first speech he used imagery of mastery when he said that he holds the "ship of state." Just like j-lights said, Antigone uses imagery of loyalty throughout the whole play. Her and Creon both use imagery of pride because they stood up for what they believed in throughout the whole play.
I really agree with Jack's first thought on how the characters live in the moment. I think that really portrays them perfectly.
In my first paragraph I'm talking about Antigone.
ReplyDeleteI think that despite their different opinions, that Antigone and Creon are very similar. They are both very pig headed. When they know what they want, almost nothing can stop them.Antigone is willing to honor her family no matter what, and Creon is willing to honor state/the city no matter what. In my opinion, both are important. While Antigone is worried about her family's future, Creon preoccupies himself with his public image. Antigone's determination to help her family is displayed when she speaks to Ismene in the very beginning of the play. It is also noticeable when she speaks to Creon after burying her brother. Despite her possible death, she defends her brother, and says that it was right to bury him. Creon wants what is best for his city, and he upholds his rules, even when Antigone, hi neice, his family, is accused, he is willing to stone her to death. The only reason he doesn't, is that his son convinces him not too.Creon's interaction with his son shows that Creon cares for his family because he listens to his son's wishes.
ReplyDeleteHaimon is a balance between Antigone and Creon. He cares for Antigone, his future wife, and at the same time, I feel like he agrees with Creon about laws at the beginning of the play. Ismene, has a very weak chaaracter to start with. she might want to bury her brother, but she does not have the inner strength to go against the law.
As Jack and John mentioned, imagery is used to describe "the ship of the state" and such. I think another way that imagery is used, is to connect Creon and Antigone. They are both visited by family and told not to do things, The difference is though, that Antigone is stronger than Creon.I think that Sophocles is trying to show this in the following parts of the play:
Although she is not the king, and she isn't important, Antigone cannot be convinced easily to change her mind. No matter how hard Ismene tried to convince her sister not to bury her brother because she would die, Antigone would not listen. Creon, although he did put up a fight, ultimately gave into his son. When Creon was visited buy the prophet, Creon showed weakness again. He is told to take Antigone out of her grave, and to bury Polyneices. He does this without any hesitation. I think that if Antigone were told a similar thing, she wouldn't do it, even if her life would be ruined as a result. There are places all over the text, where Sophocles tries to show the reader the various ways that Antigone is stronger than Creon. For this reason, Imagery plays a very large role in the play.
i agree with jack. All of the characters are loyal at some point during the play. Antigone is loyal to her brother. She shows this by burying him. Even Ismene shows loyalty. At then of the play, she wants to die with her sister. Even though she did not bury her brother, she is loyal to her sister.
I think that all of the characters in Antigone are trying to overcome the curse of Oedipus. I think that Antigone believes that in doing something she sees as honorable, she can rise above the dishonor and turmoil of her family. In getting the townspeople of Thebes on her side, she is effectualy becoming a role model for them. This is the part the king should play.
ReplyDeleteI think that when Ismene refused to help Antigone, she was trying to preserve what little honor her family had. In her mind, she was being honorable by obeying the law.
I think Creon was trying to prove himself as a strong ruler when he made the law against burying Polyneices. He was trying to show Thebes that he was strong enough to get them out of the mess that they created. I think that when Creon argued with Haimon about Antigone’s fate he was trying to preserve his son’s honor by keeping him away from a criminal.
Everyone, especially Creon is obsessed with how they appear to other people. It makes since that Creon would be the most concerned with his image since he is king, but all of the characters are very worried about how others judge them and their families. Familial pride is often referenced throughout the play. Creon talks about making the city proud and Antigone frequently talks about bringing pride to her dead relatives. All in all, they are pretty obsessed with pride. I definitely agree on this point with John. I also agree with Jack on the fact that the characters are being loyal to a cause. I think they are all being loyal to their families which is just one point compared to jack’s two points, but I basically agree.
All the characters in the play have their differences and similarities. Antigone seems to be a very strong character who isn't afraid of much, while Ismene is too afraid to bury her brother because of the consequences. Creon also seems to be stong, and fearless but questions his decisions when his family turns on him. Not much is said about Haemons personality but he seems to be like Ismene in a way, not wanting to go against orders. In the end though, both Ismene and Haemon stand up for themselves and Antigone against Creon who doesn't seem to listen at all.
ReplyDeleteIn the beginning of the play, Ismene seemed to be the older, yet weaker one and Antigone was young but had a lot of inner strength. In contrast, at the end of the play Ismene was the one being strong and fearless for Antigone who got herself into trouble.
Haemon and Creon don't have a very good relationship throughout the play. They seem to have very different opinions on pretty much everything. We do know that Creon had some respect for Haemon because when he died, Creon was very sad and began to regret what he did.
This is almost the same with Antigone and Creon. Creon was the one who sentenced Antigone to stoning and then isolation, and was also the one who mourned over her death. Antigone fought with Creon for a lot of the play and never settled on an agreement. She didn't have much, if any respect for him and his decisions as King. She knew that he didn't want the best of people, he was all about image and just wanted everyone to think that he was omnipotent, which at that time he was very close to.
Antigone was a lot alike this. She also was mostly about imagery and what people thought about her. She wanted others to think that she was fearless, and stood up for her own rights when she did, but it didn't end up going the way she planned at all.
And I agree with Zola about how Antigone and Creon are very alike. (and both "pigheaded")
j-lights is jack lightbody
ReplyDeletein the argument betweeen Antigone and Ismene,it really reveals a lot about the characters because it shows what they would do in times of trouble which is when you really see people's true colors. If you compare the two sisters, you see how different they are - Antigone is strong and knows it, but Ismene is weak and by saying that she is MAKING herself weak. it goes to show how different people can be even when they are part of the same family. Antigone i think sometimes gets overtaken by something that she wants, as shown when she starts getting angry at her sister after a long speech about how family is so important. she seems like one of those people who just does - doesnt think about it, just goes and does it. She obviously wasnt thinking about what it would do to Ismene, who would be the only one left in her family and would certianly be affected by it since we have seen how she is not very morally strong, and she probably wasnt thinking about Haimon either. Haimon ended up killing himself because Antigone died, and although he blamed his father, i beleive that Antigone could also be at fault. If she had thought things through a little more, then Haimon and she and Eurydice would all still be alive.
ReplyDeleteI think Antigone and Creon are actually quite a but alike. They both are very strong-minded, and they know what they want and how they are going to get it. I beleive that if the situation had been reversed, like if Creon had beeen the one with the unburied brother and Antigone were Queen (hypothetically speaking, of course, because they would never allow a woman to rule over their country back then) the dilemma would pretty much be the same. Although Antigone favors family over State, she never once mentions in the play about the fact that Creon is her uncle, so it seems that she would still do the same thing. Although the greatest difference between Creon and Antigone is probably their priorities. Creon expressly favors his position of power, while Antigone would rather have her brother buried than be alive, showing someone that is genuinely true to their family.
Creon and Haimon seem quite different - i would imagine that Haimon had spent more time with his mother when he was younger, thereby elarning more of her ways instead of his corrupted father's. Haimon knows what is right, and one way they are alike is that they both stand up for what they beleive in - Haimon is not afraid to tell Creon how he feels about the situation at hand, and almost threatens him.
Haimon and Antigone also seem quite a bit alike - they know how to stand up for their rights, as does Creon, but their priorities are very severe. Haimon kills himself for Antigone, somehting that it seems Antigone might do as well, seeing as she favors family so much.
I agree with Sarah when she says that everybody is very in tune with how they appear to others. They want to seem a certain way, and they are not afraid of anything that stands int heir way to get to that. Like she said, they really are obsessed with pride.
I think that Antigone was motivated by her love for her family. When she decided to bury Polyneices even though it was against the law, it showed me that she wasn’t afraid to do what she believed was right, even if it wasn’t in her best interest. Antigone showed her personality when she wouldn’t listen to Ismene and wouldn’t apologize to Creon for what she had done.
ReplyDeleteIsmene wasn’t courageous like Antigone so she decided to take the easy way out of the situation. When Ismene tells Antigone that she is too weak to disobey the law, and then she stood up for Antigone when she was about to be killed, I realized that Ismene cared more about the living than the dead.
Creon was motivated by power. He thought that by not burying his own nephew, the people of Thebes would fear him, which he interprets as respect. When Haemon says that Creon shouldn’t kill Antigone because they think she was right to bury Polyneices. However, Creon thinks that Haemon is saying that he isn’t a good king. Even when the council says that Haemon might be right, he refuses to listen to them. Creon is so obsessed with being powerful that he doesn’t realize that he made a mistake.
Haemon does everything to help the people he cares about. When he stands up to Creon he is trying to save Antigone’s life. Haemon is willing to sacrifice everything for the people he loves. When Haemon finds Antigone in the cave, I think that he realized that he wouldn’t be able to live with his father, knowing that it was Creon’s fault that Antigone died.
I agree with Jack and John about how the characters just live in the moment and how the ship being the state is part of the imagery of the play.
Antigone and Ismene are really different characters in this play. Antigone is a very strong women who will not stop until her goal is reached.Antigone was motivated by the people she loved, and by Polyneices. Ismene is more timid and will only do what the law allows her to do. Ismene was motivated by the law she did not want to go against creon and disobey him. Antigone, showing that she is very determined, went out and buried her brother Polyneices. Ismene was offered to help Antigone but Ismene was very scared to even think about doing such a thing. I think that Antigone and Ismene are two very different people. They both love their family a lot, but Antigone will do whatever it takes to protect and take care of her family. Ismene will not protect her family if it means breaking the law. Antigone is also a lot stronger than Ismene mentally. Ismene kept mentioning how they are ONLY women and they can not do anything to stop creon, and bury their brother. Antigone does not care what anyone says and will stand up for anything if it means protecting her family.
ReplyDeleteI think that the relationship between Creon and Antigone is built up on both of their stuborness. Both of them will not listen to others opinions, and will not look at what they did. They did stuff without actually thinking it through. Antigone and Creon are also both very different. Antigone did not change her opinion throughout the whole play unlike Creon. First he said that Antigone should be stoned to death because of what she did, then he changed his mind and decided that she should be put in a vault to die. At the end of the play Creon decided that Antigone really didn't do anything wrong, but by that time Antigone was already dead. Creon was motivated by his power and by what other people thought.
Creon and Haemon did not have a very good relationship in the play. Haemon seemed to agree with his fathers decision to kill Antigone, but then he was telling his father that he would take his own life if Creon took Antigones life. Haemon seems to be motivated by the love of his life, Antigone. When he saw Antigone dead he did what he said he was going to do. Kill himself. He knew that he couldn't stand the thought that his father had killed his bride. The play didn't really show Haemons emotions, but i think that he didn't want to upset his father, but did no think that is was right to kill Antigone for no reason.
I agree with what Nathalie said about how all the charaters are trying to overcome the curse of Oedipus, because it is true. They all are trying their hardest not to fail.
Each character from this play had a different trait that made them unique. For instance, it was Antigone's devotion that set her aside from the others; she was so passionate about what she did that nobody could stand in her way. Antigone's devotion and loyalty was motivated by the love she had for her family. Even though, or because, the family was set aside from the rest of Thebes because of their incestuous birth and horrible curse, her family was always the most important thing to Antigone. Her sister, Ismene, was not nearly as strong as Antigone. Ismene's character was weakened by many things throughout the play: the law, the fact the she was a woman, and fear. She showed even more weakness when she offered her own life along with Antigone's because it meant that she was too weak to live without her. Like Antigone, Ismene was motivated by her family, but it was different because Ismene was only afraid of being alone without her family.
ReplyDeleteCreon is a very self-centered character in this play. He only cares about what is good for him or his reputation and he refuses to listen to anyone's advice. Creon is motivated by his needs and what he feels is good for him. Creon's son, Haemon, is one of the best characters in this play for he tries his best to give everyone what they deserve. He is motivated by how much he cares for the best interest of other people.
When Antigone confronts Ismene in the very beginning of the play, it is easy to distinguish the different personalities because of how they interact. Antigone is so upfront with what she is going to do and she is sure that she is going to it in order to keep her dead brother from a horrible afterlife. As I said before, Ismene refuses and gives reasons such as her gender, the rule of the law, and the consequences.
Creon and Antigone are both headstrong people who refuse to listen to the reasoning of others, but in completely different manners. When they come together in the play, Antigone's reasons for breaking his law are well thought out and they make perfect sense. She did not want her brother to be dishonored in his death, for he had the same rights as anyone to be buried with the proper honors. Creon's reasons, on the other hand, are to benefit his reputation. At one point he says about her, "I suppose she'll plead 'family ties.' Well, let her. If I permit my own family to rebel, how shall I earn the world's obedience?" He is saying that it will make him look bad to his people if he lets someone break the law because of they are family.
Haemon comes into the play when he tries to convince his father, whom he loves, not to kill Antigone. Creon is so blind by pure rage that he will not listen to his son's reasoning. Haemon is trying to help more than one person at a time, for he knows that people do not agree with Creon's decision to kill Antigone and his reputation will be destroyed if he does, and he also wants to save his fiance from an undeserved death. The encounter between father and son shows that while Haemon is a reasonable young man who always thinks for the best of others, his father is a hot-headed king who easily jumps to conclusions.
I agree with Cathleen when she states that Creon was motivated by power. She is absolutely right when she says that he interprets fear as respect.
I think that family and defiance motivate antigone. She was very devoted to doing things for her family even when they died. She defied Creon by burying her brother. Ismene and Antigone confronted at the very beginning of the play. Ismene is revealed to be a weak person because she is not outgoing like Antigone. Ismene thinks that she is just a woman and can't do anything and has to abide by the law. Antigone seems young and headstrong as Ismene seems to be older and wise. Ismene would not even think about committing a crime against the new king Creon. Ismene didn't help Antigone at first, but when she is caught by Creon Ismene wants to die because she doesn't want to live without Antigone. Creon is very strong willed like Antigone. Antigone tells Creon that he made the wrong desicion in punishing her and that he deserves to die. When they confront there is a lot of anger between them, mostly Antigone is angry at Creon for his obscene punishment, stoning in public. I think that Creon wants to change the punishment for Antigone, but he will not do that because he think that the people will think of him as weak. It is ridiculous because the people think that he should change the punishment. He doesn't know what is actually happening. He is also to strong willed to let Antigone off the hook. He makes a very hasty decision and tells his guards to get Ismene, he accused her equally as Antigone. Creon and Haimon confront before Antigone is in her tomb. Haimon tells Creon to not be so head strong and listen to the people. Creon thinks that the king should only listen to what he thinks and he will be a great king. Creon thinks that Haimon is yound and not wise at all. Haimon is a very sensible man. He tries to protect his fiance, but cannot. I think that this play is centered around arguments from character to character. The odes sum up the chapter from a different view point which is nice.
ReplyDeleteI also agree with what Jack said about how all the characters live in the moment. They don't really care about the future only about right then.
I would describe Antigone as a headstrong girl. She puts Family before herself. Antigone's motivation is that her brother is going to just lie there on the field until the dogs and carrion birds get him. She would never be able to live with her self if she let that happen.
ReplyDeleteIsmene on the other other had is a very "shy" and innocent girl. She doesn't have very much self confidence in her self and doesn't like to take riskes. Her motivation in that she doesn't want to bury her brother is the punishment that Creon put for mourning or burying the body. She is scared of Creon and the Law which motivates her into saying, "no".
Haemon is polite but he isn't afraid to ask what he wants. He asked Creon to reconsider, when Creon sentenced Antigone to death. Haemon's motivation is Antigone. He is about to marry Antigone. Although back in that time marriages were arranged, i think that Haemon really liked almost loved Antigone. And that was his motivation.
Creon is a powerful ruler. He is brave, and strong. He is feared all around thebes. His motivation is that if Antigone goes unpunished just because she is a family member, all the people in thebes will think that Creon is lenient about the rules. They will think that they will get away with anything. Creon doesn't want that to happen.
I al agree with Jack and John, because I think they bring up a good point that the Characters live in the Monment. They don't care about the future just the present. And also how Creon used the ship of state as imagery.
i think that antigone has a strong tie to her family, and she will do almost anything, including die herself, to save those she loves. She has a very strong personality, and will follow through with plans that she makes.
ReplyDeleteIsmene sees life as very important, and does not want to die. She does not want to get out of line at all, and doesnt like getting in trouble. she sees power very clearly as well. Haimon is a very brave boy, who clearly loves antigone a lot. Enough so that he would kill his own father out of hatred for killing antigone. Also, he is not afraid to stand up to his father, and say he will commit suicide if antigone dies. Creon stands for what he believes in a lot, but he has a false sense of his power. He imagines himself as the iron fisted, but respected king of thebes, but, instead, he is the iron fisted disrespected king of thebes. this makes him more power hungry
i agree with Zola, as much apart in ideals as antigone and Creon are, they are quite the same.
ReplyDeleteI agree with John in that Antigone is motivated by her family. Especially Ismene. It seems as if Antigone wants to do whatever Ismene doesn't want her to do. I also agree with Hannah about Antigone being stubborn. She will do all this stuff because of her self determination that she ends up getting killed.
ReplyDeleteI think what Antigone does is motivated by her love for her family. She loves them so much she will do anything for them. Even risk her life. Ismene is mostly motivated by fear. She will only follow the law because she doesn't want anything bad to happen to her. Creon is motivated by greed. All he can think about is how thinks will effect him. For instance, he is conflicted about killing Antigone because he doesn't want people to think he will murder his own family but he doesn't want people to think he won't follow through on the laws he creates. Haimon is motivated by people he cares about, like Antigone. He tries to convince his father to let her live and even thought he succeeds, when Antigone dies, he becomes so upset that he kills himself because of it.
ReplyDeleteI think when Antigone and Ismene interact with each other throughout the play, it appears as though they aren't as close as they could be or once were. They seem to have totally different personalities and not very many things to relate to each other.
I think that when Antigone and Creon interact, they argue because they are so similar. They are both stubborn and full of themselves.
I think that Creon and Haimon don't get along very well because Haimon probably feels like Creon cares more about being king than being his father.
I agree with Ben about how much Antigone loves her family. Even when it comes to dying in order to honor them.
ReplyDeleteAntigone is a really "static" character throughout the whole play Antigone has been trying to bury her brother and die in the honor of her family. Her mission doesn't change at all like some of the other characters in the play. From the beginning she wanted to bury her brother and she didn't care if she died or not. Ismene is a very different character. At the beginning of the play she is scared of death but towards the end she becomes unafraid. She says that she helped bury Polynices even though she didn't and could get executed for it. Creon is a strange character espially in the movie. Sometimes he just gets really angry over nothing. He is also very harsh. He is my least favorite character. I Think that if he was real he would be a really big jerk. We really don't hear much from Haemon he only really talks when he is arguing with his dad. He sounds like a very strong and respected man. He really knows how to argue and change his fathers mind which he does. So his dad instead of killing Antigone he puts her in a cell to starve. Still not ideal but at least gives here a chance. A agree with Ben about how much Antigone loves her family otherwise she wouldn't have buried Polynices. I also Agree with Mattson and that Antigone is motivated by defiance and how she defied Creon on purpose.
ReplyDeleteI would say that Antigone is a strong and willing person. She takes a lot of risks, which are questionable sometimes. She will do anything she can to save the people she loves and did risk her life in the story for the beliefs of her family. Ismene takes life very seriously. She will not risk her own life, even for her own family. Ismene doesn't matter is she seems different from her sister because of her own take on life. Ismene is different in her own way because she sees power very well, and will back down because she thinks she's powerless. Haemon is not afraid to say what he thinks, and won't back down even from his father Creon. He stands strong with his words and says what he has to say. Creon is a very strict ruler. What he thinks is what goes and nobody else has a say in it. He thinks he is right with whatever he says. When he said he was going to punish antigone by killing her. I agree with John (J-Flo) Flory because I too belive all the characters had differnet traits. I also agree with because Creon is movitated when people don't obey him.
ReplyDeleteI think that every character in the tragedy "Antigone" have sometimes different personalities but most of the time are motivated by the same kinds of things.
ReplyDeleteAntigone is very stong-willed and will not stop at anything, nor consider what other people have to say, unless they agree with her. She gives her life up for what she believes in. Ismene, on the other hand, is not nearly as strong willed and does not stand up for what she thinks. When it comes to burying her brother, Polynieces, who deserves a burial even if he was a traitor to the city of Thebes, she choses to take the easy road and not break the law.
Creon's personality is in some ways similar to Antigone's. He is also very stubborn and will not listen to other people's opinions which ends up hurting him. However, the difference between him and Antigone is that Antigone's stubborness got her killed, while Creon's killed someone else.
Haemon is also an interesting character. His main motivation is noted quite a ways into the story, when he is told that his wife-to-be is going to be killed by his father. I completely agree with Karthig on the fact that even though marriages were arranged back then, it almost seems as if Haemon loves Antigone in the way he tries to persuade Creon to change his mind. When Antigone died, he killed himself because he could not live without her.
As J-Lights said, their is a constant immagery of loyalty throughout the book. Everyone thinks that by doing what they think is right, they are being loyal to the state or to their families, whichever is the case.
In Antigone, there are only a few main characters but many different ways that they change, reveal themselves, and interact. Antigone is very strong, and will not change her vision of what is right even in the face of death. Throughout the play she shows that she believes that family is the most important thing in a persons life, and going against them is like going against the gods. She shows this by basically denouncing her sister Ismene in the first scene, because she is not willing to give her life to save her brother. Antigone does not even falter when Creon threatens her with death when he sees that she buried Polyneices. However, Ismene does not share the traits that are seen in Antigone. Ismene is more careful, quiet, and self-preserving than Antigone is. She does not think that Antigone is acting in a prudent way when she goes off to bury Polyneices. However, it appears that Ismene, unlike Antigone, quails at the thought of losing someone she loves. When Creon tells Antigone that she is to be sentenced to death she says she had a part in the burial so that she could die with her sister. Ismene is not a particularly strong character, but she appears to be smarter than Antigone. Creon is obsessed with power, from the beginning he believes that someone is plotting against him even before he knows that Polyneices was buried. He thought every piece of advice was a twist in the plot to get him off the throne and make him look bad. The themes and imagery throughout the play turn from beauty to dust. Like in the poem about the flower that was covered in dirt and closed up.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Zola and Sarah, Creon and Antigone both share the same trait of stubbornness. They both refuse to take advice and only see how they went wrong when it is too late.
Antigone is a strong-willed and perseverance woman who believes in standing up for what she believes and honoring her family. She feels that the respect and honor of her family is more important than the rules of the government. She might be trying to prove that even though her family is cursed, it doesn't stop her from standing by them. Ismene also feels that family is important, but is not as eager to show this. She does not take as extreme risks as Antigone and is not as concerned with the past as the consequences of actions she takes in the future. For example, she feels she is too weak to help bury her brother because she is scared of losing her life and how things will be with no one of her family left alive. Haimon also feels that family is important, but is also careful to inform his father of the opinions of the city. He seems to have the best balance between his faithfulness to family and to the state. He is willing to stand up to his father and tell him he doesn't agree with his decisions, but also understands that he needs his father's respect and approval. Haimon, like Ismene, also thinks about the future because he wants to share the people of the city's opinions so they like him. His father, however, is on the opposite side of the scale from Antigone and Ismene. He believes that the rules of the state come first, which makes sense since he is the king. King Creon, like Antigone, is also very head-strong. He is not easily swayed, even by his son. Antigone is not easily swayed, even by her sister. King Creon feels that even though all Antigone did was keep her brothers body from being eaten by scavenging dogs, rules are rules and they must be obeyed. The imagery that the author suggests is that Antigone's decisions rely on the beliefs of her family, Creon's rely on the rules of the state. Ismene also feels family is important, but not so radically, and Haimon is the image of the neutral person who believes in both sides.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Tomas in saying that Ismene has the same beliefs as Antigone, but instead takes the easy road. I also agree with Tomas on how the effects of Antigone's and Creon's stubbornness affected them in negative ways.
Antigone’s motivation is the love for her family, or so she says. It is shown in her interactions with Ismene that she is truly doing it for her brother. But it is also shown through her interactions with Creon and some with Ismene that she wants others to know what she is doing, and she wants credit for it. Imenes motivation is to follow the law and never do anything wrong. She has been through a lot and only has one sister left and she doesn’t want anything to happen to her. And if something has to, its going to have to happen to her to. This is shown when she pleads to Creon to kill her alongside her sister. Creon’s motivation is to have power. He doesn’t want anyone to be able to break the laws he sets, which shows when he sentences Antigone, his own daughter-in-law, to death. Haemon’s motives are to care for the people he loves. He shows this when he fights against his own father and even tries to kill him, for his fiance. A pattern of imagry throughout the play is Antigones questionable motives for burying her brother. Although it seems like a loving and loyal action to do for her family, it could also be a way to get people to notice her “great dead” and Creons unreasonable ruling. It is a way of testing him as a king because he has to choose between the law he set and his own families happiness. I agree with John in saying that Haemon fights for whoever he cares about, and not only for her, but against his own father.
ReplyDeleteAntigone is motivated by the strong feeling of familly loyalty. I think that most of her character was revealed in the prologus, in the first dialogue between Antigone and Ismene. The confrentations she has with Creon expose her strong willed stubborn side. This is the case with almost all her confrentations. This is because her character is "strong willed and stubborn".
ReplyDeleteIsmene's character is mostly relfected in the first real conversation with Antigone, but more of her character's values come into play when she wants to die with Antigone. She is weak, but also proud. She wants to have pride, it's just hard for her to earn it.
Creon is also very concerned with his pride. He doesn't want to change his mind about killing Antigone but in the end does, just to find out it is too late. He only cares about his self image and what the people of Thebes think of him.
Haemon belives that the law should be followed but in my opinion he leaves these belifes out when it comes to him. He is sort of like the voice of reason to Creon but he ignores it. It is not until the prophet comes that he decides to listen.
I think that all the people in this play are way to worried about their pride. I thnk Antigone should have let her brother stay in the field and Creon should not have tried to kill her and that Ismene should not have wanted to die with Antigone. I think that these people value pride way to much and just need to give it a break.
It is interesting to see the difference in importance of pride between today and back then.
I agree with Camile when she says that she thinks Creon and Antigone fight so much becaus they are so similar. I never thought about that until she mentioned that.
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I think that in "Antigone" all the characters motivations had to do with a person. For example Antigone's motivation was to bury her brother Polynieces because she didn't think it was right for him to not have a proper burial like his brother Eteocles. This was revealed to me in the very beginning of the play when Antigone was telling Ismene, her sister, her plans to bury him. She was so strong headed about the whole situation. She didn't care if she died, as long as she died doing the right thing. This was also revealed when she didn't deny burying her brother when King Creon was questioning her. She wasn't afraid to die she was fearless.
ReplyDeleteIsmene first refused to listen to Antigone, she didn't want to break the law, especially for her dead, traitor, brother Polynieces. But at the end of the story, she stood by Antigone and tried to take the blame for burying their brother. This showed me that her motivation was the family she still had which was Antigone.
Creon's motivations were the gods and the people of Thebes. Creon always tried to please the gods. This was revealed after the prophet came and told him what to do, and what would happen to him if he didn’t accomplish the orders. Right away did Creon do what the prophet asked him to do, though he tried to resist. The consequence was for Creon, and Thebes to suffer awful pain. This shows Creon’s motivation to keep the people of Thebes safe.
Haemon’s motivation was originally his father, and then it changed to Antigone. When you first meet Haemon, Creon is asking him about Antigone. At first he wanted what ever his father wanted, and then slowly changed to defending Antigone. When he killed himself because Antigone was dead, this also showed me his love and loyalty to her, not his father.
The accruing imagery I got when I read Antigone was a constant dim image, of a sad and sorrowful time and place. It was a tragedy, and in my mind tragedies are always grey, dark, and glum. It’s always a terrible ending, with a dash hope.
I thought Cathleen’s point of view on Ismene was very interesting and true. Ismene really cared about the living and not the dead. This was revealed to me when Ismene stood by Antigone in front of Creon, though before she didn’t want to help her, then she realized that no one would be left in her immediate family, so she did what ever it took for Antigone to stay alive.
Antigone is motivated by family like John Flory said. When Antigone finds her brother to have been wronged in death by not being given a proper burial, her only thought is to uphold he families honor, no matter the cost. Antigone, by burying her brother is defying laws set by the king, by defying these laws she has done the ultimate deed to uphold her family honor. The fact that she is willing to die for this cause is remarkable. Antigone showed this when she was proud to admit she had attempted to bury her brother when faced with death for her actions.
ReplyDeleteIsmene is motivated by her own self preservation and interest on top but underneath she does have a loyalty to family. Ismene is an interesting character in this way because she reveals her true self through the play. Ismene first shows her self interest at the beginning of the play because she doesn’t feel like it’s right to bury her brother. Her first reason is because she is a woman, her second reason is because it is defying the law. At the end of the play Ismene is willing to die with her sister Antigone, because Ismene believes it would be better to die with her sister for her sisters actions than live and know her sister died without her.
Creon is motivated by self interests completely. It is very clear Creon is selfish because he doesn’t care about the kingdom or others he cares about his position in the system and his life. Creon does not try to be nice to the people of Thebes at all. Creon shows his selfishness when he ignores everyone’s advice and stays stubborn. Also when Creon finally defies his own laws he only does so to protect himself from the terrors the prophet predicted.
Haimon is motivated by honor, the people, and love. Haimon is loyal to Creon but at the same time he disagrees with him because he believes Creon is treating the people wrong and disagrees with his own fathers judgment for what he thinks is best for the people. Also Haimon is motivated by his love for Antigone, Haimon loves her enough that when he finds she has killed herself he stabs himself so as to die with her, and be by her side.
In the story I get the imagery that Antigone is the good character because she stands up for her family honor which in my ethics is on top, at least higher than what Creon stands up for. Since Creon only stands up for himself and not others he gets the feeling of the bad person. In the play I get the image that Antigone is fighting Creon, then Creon wrongs Antigone but in the end feels the repercussions of his actions.
My thoughts are that each and every single one of these characters have different and unique personalities and traits.In this story they all go through a lot in a short period of time. The events that happen bring out their true colors.
ReplyDeleteWhen Antigone and Ismeme fight/interact about burying their brother it really shows what type of people they are. Antigone is true to her family and wants what is best for everybody where as ismene is more worried about herself and just wants to live and not be noticed by others. When antigone fights with creon she gives it all she has because she knows that in the end she will be killed. Antigone is the type of person who stand up for her self, she is very hard headed and knows what she wants. She strikes me as a person who wouldn't change their mind once their mind is made up.
When creon and hamion fight, it seems to be the major fight scene of the book. Hamion yells and yells saying anything that came to his mind because he loves antigone and would do anything for her not to be killed. When hamion leaves he says this is the last time you will see me and creon silently responds.
My thoughts are the the choras is an imagery . they explain what is happening and almost seems to be a dream sequence.
I agree with raine that all of the characters motivations are from another characters. They don't all just start acting the way they do, another person in the play effects their actions.
I feel as though Antigone is trying to be rid herself of Oedipus' curse by doing something that she thinks is honorable. That is not her only motivation though, she has a strong devotion to her family. She will do anything within her power to help her family and the people she loves. And she proves this by burying her brother, even though it will get her in lots of trouble. Sometimes, Antigone gets too rapped up in what she is doing and forgets what is really important. For instance when, she got her head rapped around trying to prove herself to her community and lost touch with the original purpose, to help her brother.
ReplyDeleteI think that if time had progressed without Haemon dying, that Creon would have eventually apologized to his son. But he ran out of time. After Haemon's death Creon became very sad. On the exterior Creon appears to be strong and masculine, but I feel like his personality is exactly the opposite.
Haemon seems to be motivated by people that he loves. He seems like a plain a character until he shows how much passion and love he has for Antigone by standing up to his powerful father for Antigone's death. Before this, all we knew about Haemon was about his argument with his dad. He killed himself when Antigone committed suicide because she meant so much to him.
In the beginning of the story, Ismene appears to be a very weak character. She doesn't have the guts to stand up for what she truly believes in. She might want to bury her brother, but doesn't. At the end of the play Ismene reveals her true feelings, and stands up for her sister's death.
I agree with Shawn when he said that Antigone is a strong and willing person who takes a lit of risks.
I think that Antigone is motivated by her family. She works hard to give Polyneices the burial he deserves, and gets very angry when Ismene won't help her. She feels like Ismene is betraying their family.
ReplyDeleteCreon is motivated by power. He feels like listening to the people would give them power, and that is something that he doesn't want. He is the ruler and he feels that power is the only thing that matters.
Ismene is motivated by family, but not enough to risk death. She wants to help Antigone, but she doesn't believe that it is right for her to
question and break the law. She feels that she is too weak.
Haemon seems to be motivated by love and the right thing. He doesn't want Antigone to die because he loves her and he doesn't want Creon to do the wrong thing by the people and be hated. Creon wants the right thing for the people he loves.
Loyalty is the main image in this play. Antigone is loyal to her family through her actions and Creon is loyal to his decisions. He won't turn back unless strongly urged to.
I agree with Jeremiah about Haemon. He is definitely motivated by the poeple and love, but I don't really think he wants power that much.
Antigone is a very strong willed girl. She believes nothing is more important than loyalty to your family. As the book continues you notice it even more, when she is told that she is going to die because of what she did to her brother she is not afraid to die. She knows that she done the right thing by burying Polynieces, and she knows other people agree with her but they’re too afraid to say it. Ismene on the other hand is extremely scared of the law. She knows the punishment and she is very scared to go against it. She thinks that because she is a women she cannot do something like that, because during this time period women were treated much differently than men.
ReplyDeleteCreon I think lives in the moment, he says he will do things that he ends up changing., such as threatening to kill Antigone. He says things that are much different than what he ends up doing. I think that Creon is different than most of the other characters. Haemon is much nicer than his father. He tries to help Antigone and he ends up killing himself because of her death. I think he is a romantic person and much different than his father.
I agree with j lights comment that they live in the moment because it is completely true and really shows how they act.
In Antigone, Antigone, Ismene, Creon, and Haemon are major characters. Each character has their own personal motivation during the story. Antigone is trying to honor her family and bring herself self fufillment. Ismene is trying to protect her life, and the life of her sister after she realizes she is very lonely. Creon is trying to bring himself honor as well. He wants respect from the land he is going to rule. He believes that to obtain that he must be very strict. Haemon wants to have Antigone as his wife. You find out what Antigone very early in the story. While she talks to Ismene she explains how she wants to honor her brother. Ismene also shows her character while she disagrees with her sister and refuses to help. It is easy to tell Creon’s personality after he talks to the Chorus about respecting him as leader and how he will stone anyone who goes against his law. Haemon is relieved after he argues with Creon for Antigone’s life.
ReplyDeleteWhen these characters fight with each other, they explain more about themselves. Creon is very angry with the city and antigone. I could tell that Antigone is very strong willed after she and Ismene talked in the prolouge. Ismene is docile, she just wanted to go with the flow and Haemon showed he is a bit desperate when he said he would commit suicide to Creon. I think this story has a lot to do with not being able to listen to advice and being stubborn. All of the main characters show it. Antigone goes against the law, Creon does not want to break his rule either. Haemon kills himself to spite his father, and Ismene wouldn’t help Antigone. But by far Antigone and Creon were the most stubborn. They were so stubborn that they ended up hurting themselves very deeply.
As to what Mike said, I disagree. It sounds as if Creon is not smart at all. I believe he is blinded by emotion. He is not a spur of the moment person, but just cannot always control himself. He does think things through, like when he first talks to the chorus, he was very prepared.
Complicated relations between characters; connections to the past and imagery are three out of many reasons why I would choose to read over watching television. As one slowly works their way through a book the twisted knot of the plot unfolds itself. As in Antigone, the rope tied its first knot with the brothers in war. Antigone added many from there with her actions and attitude, creating conflict. She would seem like the favored character and one to take sympathy for, but her manipulation of Ismene and her obstinacy prove one otherwise. We learn a lot from her interaction with others and I wish that there was a scene where she interacted with Haemon too. Does Antigone have a softer side? She was motivated by the idea of honoring her family and doing what is right above the law. To put her own life at risk for this revealed her to be a young woman that is not afraid to say what she thinks. Ismene on the other hand is quite the opposite.
ReplyDeleteAs the play progresses, it becomes easier to like Ismene and there also appears this pity for her even though she is not the one putting herself at risk. This is because in the beginning Antigone is being very forceful and not understanding of where her sister is coming from. She is trapped in the cage of women being weak in her society and just cannot stand up to the law, men. Ismene comes across as the wrong person to go to if you are in trouble, rather she would tell you what you want to hear. Towards the end though she starts to grow a backbone and I think it is out of fear because she realizes she is all alone.
Yet, let us say I was Creon, who does not realize this until it is too late: the world revolves around me, I’m a fair, wise, king and like any father, I love my son. Family does not come first in my world. There are three more important things: power, the law and my crown. As you can imagine if someone threatened to disrupt any of those three belonging to me there would be a dispute. Most likely you will end up the loser of my game. Antigone did as such and look where she is now: hung by her own doing.From the scene with Haemon, we get this unchangeable and stubborn air from him like he is sucked up in the vortex of law, power and being king. Then we get this soft, given-up side when Haemon dies. After the final scene I am sure that Creon looked back on all the possible things he could have done and I bet he thought ‘Maybe family should come first.’
Haemon was his last son. From the dialogue it is easy to mistake him as an older, wiser man, but in reality he is one of the youths of Thebes. I think he is the most caring of all the characters. It is easy to tell that he cares about Antigone and the decisions his father makes. Haemon brings up the point that the people will take Antigone’s side over his father’s and I think it is a very valuable point to the story.
I like Zola’s take on the presence of imagery in the play. She said that Antigone and Creon were very alike and it is one of the reasons why they clashed. You know how they say opposite’s are perfect for eachother? Imagery for me was the dragon and the horses in the meadow. The dragon we know represents Thebes, but I think it also represents how Creon thinks of himself and how he should lead the people. Horses, to me, are fierce and wild. Antigone fits that image.
I think that all of the characters have very different personalities, and the events that happen in the book, help reveal them.
ReplyDeleteI think that Antigone is a very brave, and loyal person. She clearly loves and respects her family, and stands up for what she believes is right. Ismene on the other hand, is more quite and obedient. She likes to follow the rules, and has a bit less confidence than Antigone.
I think that Creon has a short temper, and not much patients. He loves being powerful but he doesn't know when he has gone too far. Haemon, I think, is a lot like Antigone. He fights for what he thinks is right, and he also puts other peoples lives in front of his own.
Their characters are revealed in the actions they take, and in the events that happen in the story. When Antigone and Ismene interact it showed that Ismene is weaker than Antigone. Also it showed that Antigone is very loyal to her family, and Ismene cares a bit more about herself than others. When Antigone and Creon interact, Antigone showed that she can stand up for herself, and what she feels is right. However, Creon showed that he is very stubborn, and will stand his ground.
I think that the interaction between Haemon and Creon is the most important because it tells a lot more about Haemon. Haemon is very strong and brave for standing up to his father, but he also shows his love for Antigone.
I think that power and loyalty play are major patterns of imagery in this play.
I agree with rainie when she said that all of the character emotions are connected to each others. I agree with this because I really do think that the characters feed off of each others emotion, and motivations in this play.
I think that Antigone is not a very interesting or complex character, she is a very good person and wants the best for her familly. She does not change throughout the whole play. Antigone does not like Creon at all, Antigone is a very fair person who wants the best for herself and everyone who she cares for. I think That Creon is very fair also or at least trys to be, he just like antigone is very stubburn and wont change his beliefs, the only difference is that Antigone is right. Ismene is completly different from the first two. She is very compliant and does what she is told at first but then she completely changes and decides that she will do what is right even though it is more dificult. She was very afraid and is probably still shy but she does what is right. Haemond is not a very large character in the play but we do know that he is smart because he trys to soften up his father to get him to free his fiancé.
ReplyDeleteAll of these characters are motivated to do what each of them think is the right thing to do. Antigone wanted to bury polyneices, and accepts the consequences. Ismene wants to stop Antigone from ruining her life, but doesn’t want to save her brother for some reason. Creon wants to kill the criminal who buried Polyneices, but finds out it was Antigone. This changes his opinion on the matter, and he then locks her away in a vault. Haemon wants to save Antigone from his father. All of these actions are coming from the character’s idea of what is right and wrong.
ReplyDeleteThe pattern is that each character tries, and fails at what they are doing. Except for Antigone and Creon. Antigone buries Polyneices, and then accepts the consequences. Creon realizes that the criminal is Antigone, and then his motivation changes.
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Anitgone is revealed in this play as a very headstrong person and very strong on her beliefs as a woman of Thebes. She will do anything to get what she wants. Through out the play she has stuck with her beliefs in a very static way. She would not conform for anyone and she supported what she believed in. When Ismene confronted Antigone about burying their brother, Polynecies, Antigone did not care what Ismene wanted and dismissed the case of not burying her brother; which supports the theory of Antigone being very strong and opinioned.
ReplyDeleteIsmene is portrayed in the play as someone who cares in what she believes in but doesn’t act. She says her mind but only to certain people. Through out the play she changes her mind from not helping Antigone and getting mad at her for talking about burying Polynecies but then taking all the blame for burying her brother. Many times in the play she changes her mind and is very dynamic in her choices of what to do.
Creon is very strong in his actions, but changes his actions many times in the play. Creon manipulates and scares people into doing what he wants them to do. At first, he wants Anitgone to be killed in public (to scare everyone in Thebes) then he changes his mind and has her buried alive, and finally buried alive with food. This portrays him as a person who is swayed by other people’s decisions.
Haemon is portrayed in the play also as a person who is very strong about his beliefs, just like Antigone. He will do what ever it takes to do what is right. He went against his father Creon to help Antigone. But, unlike Antigone, he would go against his family to save someone he loves. All these characters in the play Antigone have been shown to have extreme willingness to strive to get in a place in their life that they wanted to go.
I agree with Kyle about how Antigone wants the best for her family
i agree with J-lights. he said that all characters in this play live in the moment, they all do not think about what will happen to them if they do what they do, they dont think about the consequinces
ReplyDeleteAntigone is definitely motivated by her strong will. She is a very determined person, so she is motivated to do anything. This is revealed when she buries Polyneices even though it's against the law.
ReplyDeleteIsmene is motivated to do the right thing. She always wants to please people and feels that if she doesn't please everyone, she is doing something wrong. This is revealed when she won't go bury Polyneices because of the law that Creon set.
Haimon is also motivated to do the right thing and to stick up for what he believes in. This is shown when he argues with Creon over the right decision for Antigone.
Creon is motivated to to what he feels he should. At first he felt the right thing to do was to kill Antigone, but then his mind was changed when other people told him otherwise.
I disagree with Ben. I think Ismene will die if she has to. She told Creon that she should take the blame for the burial and knew what might happen.
I think that Antigone, Creon, Haemon, and Ismene all have very distinct personalities. I think that Antigone is very stubborn. Once she has even the slightest thought about doing something, she will die for the cause. Which in this case got her into a lot more trouble than she really needed to be in and eventually killed her. I think that Antigone has a lot of pride, and she will do anything not to lose that. I think that in the case of Antigone, when she was caught and brought to Creon, she could have said something along the lines of "Uncle, I'm so terribly sorry that I disobeyed your law, but I was just thinking of my brother." instead because she just has to prove her point she says rude things to Creon and stands by her decision. I believe that Antigone took the easy way out, because it is so much harder to admit your mistake. And i really do believe that she mad e mistake. Look at all the people she killed! Herself, Haemon, Eurydice, and she might not have DIRECTLY hurt them but she pushed the first domino that started the chain of events. And she also killed Ismene on the inside! Ismene is probably feeling so guilty that she didn't just go with Antigone and then she too would be with her sister.
ReplyDeleteI think that Ismene's character is very shy. I think she is very set on not breaking the rules, and if she were in school modern day, i think she would be the kind of student who never missed a day of school, and was always polite in class, and never spoke out of turn. I think that Ismene is scared, but I would not call her weak. Even though she may portray that in the begining of the story, I think that she is definitely not weak. I see a lot of courage and strength when the guards bring her in and she is fully ready to take responsibility for something she had no part in doing. She is ready to stand by her sister and take the fall for Antigone too. I think that many people look at Ismene as weak but i see courage and strength in her.
I think that these personalities come out in the play throughout the play, and i think that Antigone's personalty is strong willed and stubborn and Ismene is a courageous person who cares for her sister.
I agree with ben, in that Antigone has very strong bond's with her family, and will show that she will honor those bonds.
i think that antigone is a very headstrong and a nice caring person her motives to mi seem simple she was sticking up 4 her family if her sister was not going to do it who was? all of her family is dead maybe she just wanted there deaths to honered even if there lifes were not so good.
ReplyDeleteismene she seems really like she wants to help but does not know how because she thinks it is a mans world or she could just be a coward i am not sure yet her motives seem safe like that she just does not want to think about it maybe if she gives it more thought then ALL of the greif that revoles around her might just take a big hit on her
creon to me seems to just let rage take over when he is angry and he makes rash desitions. his motives some time he might not always think things through but he does I think try to be a good king
haemon is caring wants to do right by his father but he really loves antigone i mean he gave his life to her i think his motives are pretty good he was trying to think of everyone
i also agree with ben about antigone she has a really strong bond with your family
Antigone's motivation to bury and honor her brother comes from how she views family. Family to her is one of the most important things in the word to honor and respect. Creon on the other hand gets his motivation to go through with his plans to kill Antigone comes from his fear of over throne. He makes unreasonable laws so that everyone will be scared of him will not try to cross those laws. He also thinks that if he does not inforce the laws then people will see that it is okay to not obey the laws which could lead to his crown being over throne. Ismene is one of those people that obides Creons every law because she is very scared of what the consiquences will happen if she doesn't. that is where she gets her motivation to obey every law. Haimon is in love with Antigone, which shows that they should think alike which they do. I think Haimon gets his motivation from Antigone. He would not be this family orented with out her. Each main character gets their true role revealed in the last couple scenes in the play. Antigone killing her self, Haimon having his argument with his father, Ismene wanting to die along side Antigone, and Creon's sudden change in mind and want to save Antigone. All of these actions add up to making this play unique. The whole play there was a loyalty argument, an argument for what is right for the dictatorship or what is right for the family. This argument was not only shared by two people but every person was on one side or the other. Each part of the play there was this argument different people. This portreys to me an imagery of what is right for the family and what is right for the country. I very much agree with j-lights view point on imagery.
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ANTIGONE: I think that Antigone is very motivated by her family. I also think that when Antigone decides that she is going to do something, she will follow through until the end. She is hard headed and wont listen to what Ismene has to say and just does what she planned to do all along. She is confident and it fuels her to do what she does.
ReplyDeleteISMENE: is almost the opposite of Antigone. She does not want to help her family by burying polynieces, and does not help Antigone out. She also changes her mind throughout the play. I think that Ismene wants to help Antigone but is just not as confident and courages as her.
CREON: I think that Creon is motivated by Power. He wants to do the thing that the people will respect him for doing. I also agree with John about how he is motivated when people disobey him. When he finds out someone buried Polynieces, he is furious and uses that fury to find Antigone.
HAEMON: I thin that Haemon is motivated by Antigone because everything he ends up doing is because of what is done to her. He tries to prevent her death, and fights his father for her. When he kills himself it is for her.
I think that all the characters in the play, all think for the moment. I do not think that Creon thought about Antigone and Ismene when he announced that Polynieces would not be buried, and a don't think that Antigone thought about Haemon when she went against her uncle.
A lot of these attributes and personalities come out when these characters interact with each other.
Antigone:
ReplyDeleteAntigones motivation is the honor of and the love to her family. This motivation is bigger then the warning oh Ismene. She knows what she is doing and is not very scared of anybody.
Ismene:
Ismene's motivation is that she is realy scared of the state and she loves her sister and doesnt want to lose her.
Creon:
Creon's motivation is might. He wants to show all peopl that he is the king and nobody "can reach him".
Haimon:
Haimon's motivation is love. He loves Antigone so much and wants to marry her, so he sees no sense in his life without Antigone.
I don't think that all characters think for the moment and so I disagree with Worthy.
Ismene sees what will happen and warns her sister.
Antigone, Ismene, Creon, and Haemon. How are their characters revealed? What is disclosed through their interactions and confrontations (Antigone vs. Ismene, Antigone vs. Creon, Creon vs. Haemon)? What are the major patterns of imagery in this play and how are they connected with Antigone and Creon?
Imagery: the formation of mental images, figures, or likenesses of things, or of such images collectively: the dim imagery of a dream.
Antigone is driven by what is right by the gods, and Ismene is driven by the laws of man to differentiate from god. Creon is driven by power and always being right, Haimon is driven by love for Antigone. Antigone is mostly described by her actions of breaking the law of thebes and burying her brother. Ismene is easily called nervous and weak because of the resistance to break the law. Haimon shows his strong love for Antigone by killing himself with Antigone and laying right next to her dead corpse. Creon Shows his personality by making many laws for Thebes that nobody even agrees with.
ReplyDeleteAntigone was driven by a higher force (the gods) as opposed to the laws of man. The gods appeared in as imagery whenever the characters would talk about them.
I agree very much with Araya about Antigone, antigone is a very strong person in this story for going against the most powerful man in thebes for her brother.
The motivation of Antigone is all for her family. In her mind no matter what a family member does they deserve a burial. She stood up for what she thought was right which was burying her brother, Polyneices no matter the punishment. Ismene was motivated to change her sister’s mind because she was her only sibling left. In Ismene’s mind, because they are women they are weak and must follow the rules in the beginning. Towards the end of the play Ismene changes her mind she starts then to think that life is not worth living if her sister dies and regrets her decision. She goes to her sister and Antigone explains that she has to keep living. Creon’s motivation is to keep to his public command that if any man buries or even sprinkles dust on Polyneices he would be stoned to death. Creon changes his punishment after realizing that it was Antigone that had done it. Haemon’s motivation was to change is father’s mind because he loved her and didn’t want her to die. But when he found her dead he killed himself to be with her. When Creon’s wife heard about his death she killed herself. I think that Creon got what he deserved because he didn’t understand what he did wrong until everyone in his family was dead. These were the major patterns that was connected with Antigone and Creon.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Sofia because that Antigone is stubborn and full of pride and how she got into more trouble which killed her in the end. She could have said something different to help herself but instead she was rude and got more into trouble. With her stubbornness she started a chain of events which lead down hill.