This blog is specifically designed for Hanover High School students in Ms. Piro's English 9 course.
Friday, October 2, 2009
Question of the Week (10/2/09)
As you complete the rough draft of your Antigone opinion paper, share which conflict you've chosen and why? Support your reason for this choice using evidence from the text.
And because the conflict between the two is very present in the stroy representing itself in the fvarious aeguments and fights between the two. Like when Haimon was trying to convince creon not to put antigone to death.
I also chose to write about Creon versus Haimon. I decided on this topic because I thought that Haimon made such a good point against Creon, and because there was so much of a difference between their two opinions. For example, on page 217, Creon says, "Do you want me to show myself weak before the people? Or to break my sworn word? No, and I will not. The woman dies." Creon truly believes that to change what he said, even for a good cause because he had bad reasoning, would be a sign of weakness and the people would begin to revolt against him. Haimon, however, says on page 219, "In flood time you can see how some trees bend, and because they bend, even their twigs are safe, while stubborn trees are torn up, roots and all." Haimon believes that a good ruler needs to be able to listen to the council of others in order to succeed. He also speaks out of his love for Antigone since she is the one who's been sentenced to death. Overall, their opinions really represent family versus state, and beyond that as well into what should happen and what needs to happen. I found both of them to make good points, and they're both right in different ways.
I picked to do Antigone vs. Ismene because since they are sisters its like a love hate relationsip. both sisters are right and wrong. Antigone wants to burry her brother even thought it againsed th law. Ismene doesn't want to burry her brother because it is againsed the law even if it is her brother.
I chose to write about Haimon vs. Creon for varios reasons. One of them being because I think that I could have a lot to say about not only the relationship between them, but about why I think Haimon is correct in the argument they have. Creon has such a strong personality and he thinks that if he changes one thing he says then it will come off as a sign of weekness. Since his original decision is to have Antigone die, he feels he must stick to that or he will come off as a bad ruler. However, I agree with Jesse when she said that Haimon believes in listening to everyone to succeed. I think that since their two opinions are so vastly different it could make for a very interesting essay. The main theme in this essay is family vesus state, which clearly shows up in this part of the book. I mainly agree with Haimon but King Creon did make some valid points as well. So, I think the difference of opinions will make for a very interesting essay.
I chose to write about Antigone vs. Creon because that is the biggest conflict in the book in my opinion. It is an excellent example of men vs. women and law vs. family, so I have a lot to write about. This feud between them from Antigone just wanting to bury her brother can stretch out into many other topics like the power od determination, the power that any woman can have if they truly believe in what they are doing, and if any law is set in stone.
I have decided to write my paper on the Conflict of Antigone versus Ismane. The conflict clearly relates to our everyday lives, and I wanted to highlight, and express how it actually does effect us. On Page 193, Antigone says "Ismane, I am going to bury him, will you come?" I think that in life we get asked with many questions similar to this one, and it is in these situations that we ask ourselves what do I do?
I decided to right about the conflict involving Haimon and because all of the elements of an argument are there the sucking up before you ask someone to do something the statin creon g of the fact that everyone else thinks this or does that all this making it easer to right about.
I chose to write about Antigone vs. Ismene. I chose this one becuase I thought that it was one of the most prevalent matters in the play. Sophocles starts off right at the beginning of the play in the prologue by showing us this matter. Antigone and Ismene were arguing on whether to bury their brother, and they took very different opinions on the matter. Another reason why I chose to write about this topic was becuase I thought that it represented the family vs. state matter very well also. Antigone represents the state because she wants to take responsibility for what she has done, while Ismene wants to uphold the bond of sistership between them. On page 212 Ismene says to Antigone, "Yes, if she will let me say so. I am guilty." Antigone responds by saying, "No, Ismene. You have no right to say so. You would not help me, and I will not have you help me." This quote shows the family vs. state conflict very well because it shows Antigone wanting to take the punishment, and Ismene trying to help.
I chose to write about the conflict between Creon and Antigone. I chose it because I think that there was a lot of interesting ways that Antigone tried to make Creon understand that he was not thinking clearly. At the beginning to try to make him understand, Antigone says, "It was not God's proclamation. That final justice that rules the world below makes no such laws." She is basically saying to Creon that his laws are nothing compared to the gods' and she wasn't going to listen to him when she thought he was wrong. She was trying to make him understand that the gods would be angered by his decree, and that no good would come of it. Many others tried to tell him that he wasn't making sense. Teiresias said, "Give in to a dead man, then: Do not fight with a corpse – What glory is it to kill a man who is dead?" Creon wouldn't listen, however, and he only found out in the end his great mistake. This conflict had a lot to do with family verses state. Creon was torn between the fact that Antigone was family, and the fact that he had to prove to his subjects that he would enforce the law no matter who broke it. Antigone told Creon how wrong it was to disregard family. "His own brother, traitor or not, and equal in blood," she said about Polyneices. Creon wouldn't listen to any of the warnings that would have saved mulitple lives in the end.
I chose to write about Creon Vs. Haimon because I thought it was ( in my mind) one of the most important battles, even though Haimon doesn't play a huge role in the story. As henry said "The conflict clearly relates to our everyday lives" it does very much so.
I chose to write about Creon vs. Haimon, because I saw the conflict of Creon's pride against Haimon's reason. I chose this conflict because stubborn pride seems to be the overarching theme of the story to me, which was reinforced by the last line of the play "And proud men in old age learn to be wise." This demonstrates Creon's tragic flaw, and Haimon tries to save Antigone by showing Creon his unreasonable thinking.
I chose to write about Creon vs. Haimon, because whilst reading the section I was noticing how pompous Creon was being. Haimon comes in to try and save Antigone's life by reasoning with his father. Unfortunately Creon has too much pride to take advice from his son. In the end he loses all he ever had and is tragically reminded of how his brainless actions left him feeling futile, losing his family and having to deal with a disheveled city before him.
I chose the conflict between Creon vs. Haimon, because the conflict between them is a more personal one than that of the other conflicts. Haimons problems with how stubborn his father is keeps a good argument going most of the play. Even though the relationship between them seems to be dysfunctional, at the end of the story Creon realizes he was wrong but at the wrong time. By this time his son has already died along with Antigone because of his actions
I chose to write about Creon vs. Haimon becaus eot is something that I can comment on without difficulty.
ReplyDeleteAnd because the conflict between the two is very present in the stroy representing itself in the fvarious aeguments and fights between the two. Like when Haimon was trying to convince creon not to put antigone to death.
ReplyDeleteI also chose to write about Creon versus Haimon. I decided on this topic because I thought that Haimon made such a good point against Creon, and because there was so much of a difference between their two opinions.
ReplyDeleteFor example, on page 217, Creon says, "Do you want me to show myself weak before the people? Or to break my sworn word? No, and I will not. The woman dies." Creon truly believes that to change what he said, even for a good cause because he had bad reasoning, would be a sign of weakness and the people would begin to revolt against him. Haimon, however, says on page 219, "In flood time you can see how some trees bend, and because they bend, even their twigs are safe, while stubborn trees are torn up, roots and all." Haimon believes that a good ruler needs to be able to listen to the council of others in order to succeed. He also speaks out of his love for Antigone since she is the one who's been sentenced to death.
Overall, their opinions really represent family versus state, and beyond that as well into what should happen and what needs to happen. I found both of them to make good points, and they're both right in different ways.
I picked to do Antigone vs. Ismene because since they are sisters its like a love hate relationsip. both sisters are right and wrong. Antigone wants to burry her brother even thought it againsed th law. Ismene doesn't want to burry her brother because it is againsed the law even if it is her brother.
ReplyDeleteI chose to write about Haimon vs. Creon for varios reasons. One of them being because I think that I could have a lot to say about not only the relationship between them, but about why I think Haimon is correct in the argument they have.
ReplyDeleteCreon has such a strong personality and he thinks that if he changes one thing he says then it will come off as a sign of weekness. Since his original decision is to have Antigone die, he feels he must stick to that or he will come off as a bad ruler. However, I agree with Jesse when she said that Haimon believes in listening to everyone to succeed. I think that since their two opinions are so vastly different it could make for a very interesting essay.
The main theme in this essay is family vesus state, which clearly shows up in this part of the book. I mainly agree with Haimon but King Creon did make some valid points as well. So, I think the difference of opinions will make for a very interesting essay.
I chose to write about Antigone vs. Creon because that is the biggest conflict in the book in my opinion. It is an excellent example of men vs. women and law vs. family, so I have a lot to write about. This feud between them from Antigone just wanting to bury her brother can stretch out into many other topics like the power od determination, the power that any woman can have if they truly believe in what they are doing, and if any law is set in stone.
ReplyDeleteI have decided to write my paper on the Conflict of Antigone versus Ismane. The conflict clearly relates to our everyday lives, and I wanted to highlight, and express how it actually does effect us. On Page 193, Antigone says "Ismane, I am going to bury him, will you come?" I think that in life we get asked with many questions similar to this one, and it is in these situations that we ask ourselves what do I do?
ReplyDeleteI decided to right about the conflict involving Haimon and because all of the elements of an argument are there the sucking up before you ask someone to do something the statin creon g of the fact that everyone else thinks this or does that all this making it easer to right about.
ReplyDeleteI chose to write about Antigone vs. Ismene. I chose this one becuase I thought that it was one of the most prevalent matters in the play. Sophocles starts off right at the beginning of the play in the prologue by showing us this matter. Antigone and Ismene were arguing on whether to bury their brother, and they took very different opinions on the matter.
ReplyDeleteAnother reason why I chose to write about this topic was becuase I thought that it represented the family vs. state matter very well also. Antigone represents the state because she wants to take responsibility for what she has done, while Ismene wants to uphold the bond of sistership between them. On page 212 Ismene says to Antigone, "Yes, if she will let me say so. I am guilty." Antigone responds by saying, "No, Ismene. You have no right to say so. You would not help me, and I will not have you help me." This quote shows the family vs. state conflict very well because it shows Antigone wanting to take the punishment, and Ismene trying to help.
I chose to write about the conflict between Creon and Antigone. I chose it because I think that there was a lot of interesting ways that Antigone tried to make Creon understand that he was not thinking clearly. At the beginning to try to make him understand, Antigone says, "It was not God's proclamation. That final justice that rules the world below makes no such laws." She is basically saying to Creon that his laws are nothing compared to the gods' and she wasn't going to listen to him when she thought he was wrong. She was trying to make him understand that the gods would be angered by his decree, and that no good would come of it. Many others tried to tell him that he wasn't making sense. Teiresias said, "Give in to a dead man, then: Do not fight with a corpse – What glory is it to kill a man who is dead?" Creon wouldn't listen, however, and he only found out in the end his great mistake. This conflict had a lot to do with family verses state. Creon was torn between the fact that Antigone was family, and the fact that he had to prove to his subjects that he would enforce the law no matter who broke it. Antigone told Creon how wrong it was to disregard family. "His own brother, traitor or not, and equal in blood," she said about Polyneices. Creon wouldn't listen to any of the warnings that would have saved mulitple lives in the end.
ReplyDeleteI chose to write about Creon Vs. Haimon because I thought it was ( in my mind) one of the most important battles, even though Haimon doesn't play a huge role in the story. As henry said "The conflict clearly relates to our everyday lives" it does very much so.
ReplyDeleteI chose to write about Creon vs. Haimon, because I saw the conflict of Creon's pride against Haimon's reason. I chose this conflict because stubborn pride seems to be the overarching theme of the story to me, which was reinforced by the last line of the play "And proud men in old age learn to be wise." This demonstrates Creon's tragic flaw, and Haimon tries to save Antigone by showing Creon his unreasonable thinking.
ReplyDeleteI chose to write about Creon vs. Haimon, because whilst reading the section I was noticing how pompous Creon was being. Haimon comes in to try and save Antigone's life by reasoning with his father. Unfortunately Creon has too much pride to take advice from his son. In the end he loses all he ever had and is tragically reminded of how his brainless actions left him feeling futile, losing his family and having to deal with a disheveled city before him.
ReplyDeleteI chose the conflict between Creon vs. Haimon, because the conflict between them is a more personal one than that of the other conflicts. Haimons problems with how stubborn his father is keeps a good argument going most of the play. Even though the relationship between them seems to be dysfunctional, at the end of the story Creon realizes he was wrong but at the wrong time. By this time his son has already died along with Antigone because of his actions
ReplyDelete